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PostSubject: Question, relating to phone-game   Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:38 am

Bet you missed your favorite rookie, eh? Very Happy

Seriously though - I got back to London on the 2nd and I've finally been getting in touch with proper PUAs. Predictably the most expert ones don't want to sarge with me, but I've still had some interesting experiences.

I'd be glad to talk about them all, but there's one thing I really want to ask before anything. I was daygaming with a fellow rookie some time ago and I was failing to phone-close most of my sets, either because I chickened out or because they just said no despite seeming very hooked in the conversation (I guess it's good I'm learning how much my game is missing before I become a proper PUA). But anyway, at the very end of the day, I met this girl working at a clothes' store and I opened with: "Do you think I'd look gay in a woman's hat?" She responded, I played some game, then read her hand, then said I had to go. She said it was a shame, because the palmistry had been fun, and I suggested I'd give her a full hand-reading next time I was around. Then I asked her if there was any way we could keep in touch, she said something I can't remember, then I told her to give me her number and she did.

I'd been just practising most of the day, but the thing is, this girl was by far the hottest I'd opened that day. In fact, she was the hottest I've opened FULL STOP. An HB10 in my book (though taste comes into it, you guys might disagree). I was really elated she'd given me her number, so I got ready for some phone game.

I texted her the next day with something playful suggested by Mehom: "Hey hatgirl [situational regarding my old opener] it's your hat-daddy in town". No response. I called her the day after, and she was at work and said if she could call me later. I decided not to call or text the day after that, to avoid being needy. The day successive to that, I gave her a call, and had a ten-minute chat - not spectacular, to be honest (she was really tired and seemed pretty unresponsive), but discrete flow anyway. The day after that (aka today) I sent her a text saying "Hey philosofia [her name is sofia] how many philohats did you sell today? Wink ". No response.

I'm guessing she's lost interest. I'm really more down than I should be about this - all PUAs probably start by getting rejections, but this girl was an authentic volcano and I wasn't expecting to get such a frigid response before even the first date. Still, I'd like to hear your thoughts on this. I've kind of lost hope so I'm going to start gaming elsewhere, but I might as well throw some last attempts while I'm at it. I was thinking of going quiet for two days, then on the third day either call her again or visit her at the store (with some friends, acting like I'm just taking my friends around and I thought I'd stop and say hi). Would you guys agree with this strategy? Also, where did I fuck up with my phone game?

If it matters, the girl seemed a rather insecure, rather shy personality.

Really very down right now, admittedly. Don't be too harsh on me.
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PostSubject: Re: Question, relating to phone-game   Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:09 pm

Hey man. She's been cold to you on the phone the entire time. I would NOT contact her with the phone again at this point. You "could" take your friends in there, but NOT to stop and say hi. Actually have a reason to buy something in the store. Basically, you DON'T want to give her much, if any, attention when you are in the store, and it would be best if you could have some female friend among your group as well. Preferably with that female friend hanging near YOU.

It IS great that you did number close her though, so congrats on that man.

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PostSubject: Re: Question, relating to phone-game   Sun Dec 14, 2008 6:23 pm

Thanks, Tripp. Assuming I do that, though, how do I follow that up? Do I just cross my fingers and hope she'll contact me, or do I start with the phone game again (or, if she doesn't contact me, do I just call it game over and move on because there's obviously no more road with this one)?
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PostSubject: Re: Question, relating to phone-game   Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:45 pm

You don't cross your fingers and hope she'll contact you. That's desperate and needy. Both unattractive. You do move on to other girls, which you SHOULD already be doing anyway. Besides, if you were to take another girl in their with you, and she DOES have an interest in you, it will cause a pang of jealousy and cause her to think about you more which will end up causing her to want to contact you. Once she thinks about you enough, she WILL contact you. But, that's IF she is interested enough in you.

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Make her qualify herself to YOU.

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PostSubject: Re: Question, relating to phone-game   Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:39 am

Firstly, reframe this situation. You are a success, you got a girl hooked on your palmistry, got her number and was willing to leave her right there. Once you got her number, you contacted her. Sometimes she responded, and other time she didn't. No big deal, trust me, no big deal. There are millions of ladies that are not frigid, that need you in their lives.

Here's what I would do, I wouldn't immediately go back into that store. I would show some patience, when my total package has been built up firmer. Give it a month, gain some more field experience, approach more people, and then I would attack this situation from a another standpoint. A standpoint of not really needing her to sway your confidence about yourself. I know how that close of a cute girl can surge your levels about yourself into another realm, that's too barometric. What you want is baseline. Also, what LA states are words to internalize. peace,lvoe and succe SS
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PostSubject: Re: Question, relating to phone-game   Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:46 am

Fortune, I like how you put that . . . baseline.

Skotos, that's something you need to work on. As he pointed out, taking off into the stratosphere is great, but it's not stable at the moment. You have to get your baseline solid. Your inner game and self-confidence has to be solid, as in you know who you are and that's what matters. Your validated internally.

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PostSubject: Re: Question, relating to phone-game   Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:53 pm

Thanks guys, that's all good advice. I have been moving on to other girls (even though here in London my game seems to be a little less effective), so I'll probably give this girl another call before I leave for the Christmas holidays and then leave it at that. We'll see in a month or so if I decide to go back to that store.
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