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PostSubject: False takeaways and shit tests   Fri Jul 09, 2010 2:13 am

Quite often I get a false takeaway, where the chick says, I have to go now. Or sometimes it is a genuine case that she may have to go. In cases where there is a strong likelyhood of meeting the HB again, does it increase attraction if you say, "yea fine, see you again" and walk off. In other words, leaving the set with a could not care a less attitude.
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:11 am

Absloutely not, whenever you are hit with a false takeaway it is an invite for you to finally make a move. I.e. getting the girls contact info in most cases. Women have a keen sense as to why you are indeed chatting them up my friend,and they want you to make them divulge into thier dreams. Their dreams of having a guy who is confident in himself, who doesn't to look to her for a roadmap(asking her what she wants to do and stuff) some guy who loves his own snot,lol.

I recall, when I would open up a girl at the university, and we would hold court for a few moments. Since it was school I knew that the window for my goal was relatively a small one. My whole approach consisted upon getting the girl to convey to me as quickly as possible how interesting she felt I was.

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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:27 am

Thanks for that Fortunehooks. I had no idea that a false takeaway may be a sign to close. I will attempt at that point next time.
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:09 am

Well, i appreciate you my man, and I want you to force your mental brain to accept the fact that you deserve what you want. In the venusian arts, we have some guidelines as to why we(guys) use false takeways. false takeways are used to allow ourselves a view from the bird's nest on how our interaction with said girl is going. For instance, I have met this super hot young lady. We talk about loyalty( any random thing) I don't necessarily want the convo to end, she's hot, but she hasn't offered up any clues that she wants to jump my bod( aside from this interesting convo). So, I notice she has a nice watch, I take her hand and allow myself to read the time off of her arm.

I say," we have been talking for fifty years, Im starting to see some hints of gray in your hair, but on the bright side your personality rocks and your eyes have been sparkling. Do you get that way everytime you and a guy you fancy connect on a level?"

By looking at the watch, Im conveying that there is a place I need to be heading too. Im also trying to see how emotionally invested i have forced her to become. Since she has had such a wonderful time conversing with me, Im saying to her that this maybe the very last time she will ever cross paths with me, or it could only get better if she knew more about me by spending time with me.

False takeways can be interpreted in a number of ways, but to be totally fair to the wonderful life you wish to create always interpret them as a call to action. peace,lvoe and succe SS
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:51 pm

Thanks again Fortunehooks, your advice is much appreciated, I shall put it to good use. Took my grandson to a park a few days back, gosh there was this absolutely stunning chick there, got chatting to her, used palm reading, really got her going, her kids were watching and all. I didnt try to close because she was engaged to be married, and the poor guy had just built her a house. Just to be cruel I told her that I had read something very personal but I could not tell her in front of the children, and then left her with a really inquisitive look on her face. While I was doing it, this other chick came up to me to tell me how well behaved my grandson was. Now he is well behaved, but not to the extent that its necessary to approach me and tell me while I am palm reading another woman. Do I take it this was probably social proof in action! I am really enjoying this pua stuff. I could never have done this even six months ago. Approaching like crazy, got a number last week. Oh and in work I am walking around with this alpha stance and sit down with legs apart and arms draped over the next chair. All the chicks that I work with are showing me so much more respect. Its hard to believe, and I am no spring chicken either! Just got the The Rules of the Game in the post yesterday, there are some good tips in there, cant wait to try them out.

Anywhere I can get some good relationship management advice from? I am having some trouble with my wife.
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:26 am

Yes, that instance was a result of the present pre-selection.

Good relationship advice. Well, one thing with PUA is that some of it also works within the frame work of a relationship. One bad thing is that most gurus don't stick with a relationship with one girl, therefore no solid relationship advice. However, I've been with my wife for years. And I've had another relationship for a few years along with it. So, shoot your question and we'll see what we can do.

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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:26 am

P.S. Thanks Fortune for the excellent advice above.

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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:50 am

Hey Puller,

I come on here every once in a while. Just to let you know that for what it's worth, take whatever I say that's useful for you..and if anything I say might screw you up, then ignore those parts.

Use whatever works with your existing belief systems. I'm only saying this because I don't subscribe to the typical "PUA" jargon or systems but do my own thing. And I know the information overload can be overwhelming if you're hearing different ideas.

Basically, the simplest idea I can share would be that if you observe a woman's overall behavior pattern, instead of focusing in on only one behavior, you can observe whether or not she is interested. And that's what you want. INTERESTED women. Not women who have little interest. Because women with little interest are way too much work and the pain of having women with low interest in your life isn't worth what little pleasure you get in return.

Then whether or not she uses a "real" or fake "takeaway", it's totally irrelevant. Or actually, if one behavior seems like a rejection or show of low interest, and 5 or 6 of her other behaviors are behaviors of high interest, then you know (most likely) she's into you and you can observe how she reacts when it's time to exchange info.

Asking for a phone number is done with a certain attitude. That attitude being "Okay. We're going to see if she's worth my time or is going to be too much of an annoyance or pain in the ass to deal with.". If she acts reluctant to give out her number, she's probably going to be a real pain in the ass. Meaning she's done you a favor by showing reluctance/not giving the number. You can be happy she saved you the trouble and didn't waste your time. Another way to test interest is giving your number instead, then see if she reciprocates.

An interested woman will offer her number without you asking if you already wrote yours down. If she doesn't give you her number, in your mind, you think to yourself "Okay, she's not interested, I can move on to the next one.". You act fun and upbeat as if you expect that the two of you will have fun. On the inside you assume she won't call this way you won't be waiting around for her to call you.... Then if you get a phone call, she's proved she's interested.
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:10 am

Thanks Maximus. I think I have been focusing too much on individual actions and not the overall level of interest. I have to learn to be a pick up artist and not a pick up scientist.

My wife does not seem overly interested in me, I think that is probably why I have so little sex. I often think I have it sorted and then next thing, no interest again for a couple of weeks. It has always been like that and we have been married a long time. Argue over everything and always wanting her own way.

Have been trying to raise her level of interest by being more alpha, it seems to pay off, but then slips back again. I dont know if it is that I am failing to maintain my alphaness or something else.
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:16 am

Sounds like she's complacent in the relationship as well. She could be at the point that no matter how strong of an alpha YOU become, her complacency will win out. Which leads to one question . . . is she worth the fight? From the lack of interest, I would say not, personally.

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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:33 am

Thanks for that Tripp, yes its a difficult judgement to make. We have 20 years of marriage and its difficult to throw it away. Every time I think I got it sorted it just goes back again.

My problem is that I have been a super beta for years because I always thought it was the "right" way to be. Always doing everything to help and support. However at the end of the day it seems to count for nothing.

She kissed another guy in front of me and that has brought it all to a head.

Since I have been on these sites and been following your and others advice I seem to be making progress, but oh so slow. It seems like everything in the relationship has to be on her terms. Now I am in the process of standing up for myself, she does not like it one bit. She has noticed the difference but says she does not like the new me. I guess its because the new me isn't being particularly compliant. I am doing next to nothing for her at the moment and contributing very little financially. Also dressing really well, praise the girls I work with, put after shave on before going to work (never used to wear it)

She has an evening cleaning job and I would help her knowing how hard it is for her, but now I am staying at home, she looks worn out and between everything I think it may affect her health. She has to walk everywhere now as I am the only one who drives. It hurts as I would like to help, but then she just takes advantage, I have to show her what she is missing in terms of my support.

Whether it is all worth it or not, I have my doubts.
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:37 am

On the other hand though, my confidence with women in general has improved so much, and feel better within myself in this respect. Even with the improvements I've made so far, I am confident that should the need arise I would have no problems getting dates from women of just about all ages, though maybe I would have to settle for 4s and 5s Lol
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:47 am

Let me tell you a couple of stories . . . or rather examples maybe.

My dad has not been super beta to my mom, but he's been beta to the point where she wore the pants. After 50 years, it's still that way.

My wife's parents, her dad IS super beta and has always been. He literally NEVER spoke up or stood up. At least my dad did, some. Her dad is just that way. I don't step up to him much, out of respect, but there have been times when I've had to speak up some myself, even to him, but I know I tend to knock him down as well when I do so. Her parents are now divorced. She WISHES they would have divorced when she was younger, because she knew they weren't happy. And therefore the family wasn't happy. Her mom still has him wrapped around her little finger. He still loves her, she's got a girl friend now though.

The main girl friend I had, whom is now married to another beta, her parents are the same way, the mom wears the pants in the family.

Me, I'm the one that leads and wears the pants in this family. I did with the girl friend as well and she loved it, but her mom hated it. I've gone head to head with several members of my wife's family, every time they degrade her.

When you have such a history of being beta, the woman does not want to change the status quo. It's hard to change her perception even before marriage, or before a relationship of this many years, but the length of time adds yet another layer to it and she doesn't want to change the status quo.

Yes, she takes you for granted, yes, she's complacent. Overly comfortable. It's a comfort zone and she wants to keep that comfort zone.

She's kissed another guy in front of you. Did she apologize for that? Did she give a reason for that? Did you demand a reason or ask for an apology?

Remember, it's about value. Your value in your wife's mind is EXTREMELY low. Your value in other's female's minds, with your new attitude, is HIGHER than your value in your own wife's mind. That's the truth.

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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:10 am

What you are saying makes a lot of sense. Sometimes when I am chatting up someone I have only just met, I see a spark of interest in her eyes. I never see it in my wife's.

The kissing incident is so bad it is hard to believe, but here goes.

We are at her neice's wedding and I meet her betrothed, he looks at me in an unfriendly way. I find it odd since its the first time I met him.

My wife does not sit next to me during the service but with her sisters. Spends little time with me during the after service reception and likewise avoids me during the evening reception.

Now I purchase a customary drink (sambucca) for the bride and groom and go over to where my sons are standing. Along comes half drunk groom and attempts to kiss two married women, both of whom reject him, he walks over to my wife, whom I was confident would do likewise.

This is what happened:-

He walks straight up to her and looks directly into her eyes, she looks down and away, he follows her with his eyes, she looks back up at him and into his. He puts his hands on her cheeks and stares from side to side at her. He then goes in for the kiss and she lets him carry on. I was shocked and my boys were stunned. I walked over to them and stared at him from just a few inches away while they were kissing. He broke off, looked at me, said sorry and walked off.

She then turned to the other guests and shouted "he has sweet lips, what has he been drinking?" so I said bitterly "Sambucca, I paid for it". By this time she was walking away in the general direction he had gone, possibly following him. She then turned around and came back and said " I should not have done that".

Now my wife had met him some weeks before the wedding and had been talking about him frequently, then after the wedding she would frequently bring him up in converstation even though I told her I didn't want to hear his name mentioned.

At first she said she had to do it, because he had forced her BS, I saw it all. I told her if that was the case we should phone the police because its sexual assault and started dialling on my phone. No no I am not doing that!

Then she said she didnt kiss him, only he did it to her, BS.

Now she admits it was an ego boost.

I'd better be careful what I write, it may end up in some woman's magazine as a story!
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:19 am

That's total BS and every one at that wedding/reception thinks the same way, hence the looks. I'm sure a hush hit the room too, did it not?

Sigh, this woman is definitely not worth the fight at this point. She's gone. I'd almost guarantee she's fucking the new groom and has been. And for the new wife to ALLOW him to do what he did, that says a LOT as well.

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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:45 am

I think there may be more to it too, the groom was 26 and she just turned 50. I dont know what to say.

I think something must have gone on between them before the incident but she denies it of course, but that is what you would expect.

His new wife didn't see it, it took place on the grass just outside the building where people were smoking and getting some fresh air.

Thanks for everything Tripp, its quarter past eight in the morning here in UK and I have to get to work now. Take it Easy
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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:51 am

To me, it's time to move on, from what I'm reading/hearing.

Have you told the new wife what he did? Has anyone told her? Honestly, I bet she knows he's that way, especially since he was half drunk and attempted to kiss THREE married women. If his wife DOESN'T know he's like that, she shouldn't have married him to begin with because she doesn't know him.

Hell, the girl I was seeing, she married a guy after knowing him for about 2 months and he knew NOTHING about me and her . . . which was for THREE YEARS. He's a 42 year old man, with a car wash, and his parents have money and his dad fights his battles for him apparently. So, something's off there too. That man can NOT be mature.

This new wife makes me wonder as well.

Anyway, you're welcome. It's about 2:20 am here and I'm about to go to bed. Talk later.

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You have one shot, and it's in the first 3 seconds.
Make her qualify herself to YOU.

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PostSubject: Re: False takeaways and shit tests   Thu Jul 29, 2010 12:33 pm

Okay Buddy. You can order this in secret...the site tells you how....protect your rights before this bitch takes you to the cleaners... Sorry bro. This isn't the time for mincing words.

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